Re: Need your help re: surveys


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Posted by Genevieve Gipson RN MEd RNC (web site host) on September 28, 1999 at 23:21:59:

In Reply to: Re: Need your help re: surveys posted by Patti Green on September 27, 1999 at 22:12:01:

Thanks Patti,

This is the type of info they need to hear. If you get any other ideas be sure to drop me a line. Much thanks. Will keep you posted on the outcome of the session I conduct for the surveryors.

Jeni Gipson

: : 1. How much do surveyors currently talk with NAs?
: --Where I work- the CNA's often talk with the
: inspectors. We ask them questions and they ask us
: things. They have watched us deliver care, at our
: (&our; residents) invitation.

: : 2. What questions are being asked?
: --Umm- usually things about how much training we
: have had to do certain tasks. Or they may ask
: about stuff in care plans or food related stuff.

: : 3. What is the general atttitute of the surveryor toward the NA?
: --For me & my peers- the relationship is generally
: ok. We don't wig out when they come- because we
: do things the right way all the time. Management
: wigs out!

: : 4. What do you think they should discuss with a NA?
: --What an average shift is really like? Or how
: about- what the average ratio really is? The
: inspectors should really utilize the CNA to gather
: the real info about how a place runs. When they
: are in house, often the staffing is perfect if not
: better. CNA's are really the ones who can tell it
: like it is.

: : 5. What would you like them to know about what you are doing?
: --I would like to see inspectors hold meetings with CNA's to find out what the CNA perceives
: her/his job description really is. The inspectors
: could learn a lot about who delivers what care,
: when, how often and why care ISN'T always given.

: : 6.What does a NAs need to know before this visit?
: --Nothing, except that they should be honest and
: upfront. CNA's too often have the fear of God put
: into them by nursing management when OBRA comes.
: This is stupid. If management were doing what they
: are supposed to do in the first place....

:
: : 7. How can they use NAs better in the survery proces?
: --As above, get the CNA's too draw the true picture of what really goes on. Ask the CNA's about the food, the amount of resident rights that
: are often dis-honored. Buy them a cup of coffee
: and chat. Be polite and warm. Not cold and stiff.
: CNA's are the residents' best advocates, but they
: have no real way of being so.
: Patti
: Hope this wasn't too negative...




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